many ways you're right. last week i was covering these protests at walmart and i interviewed numerous walmart workers who said we've been there three years, five years, ten years, making $8, $9, $10, $11 an hour. you just put up that number. at costco, if you work there 4 1/2 years you're making generally $20.50 an hour. and then they kick in another $4,000, $5,000 to your 401(k). an amazing thing is the typical costco worker there 4 1/2 years is making as much as the typical walmart assistant store manager. >> steve greenhouse, "new york times." great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. >>> there's a lot more coming up in the next half hour of "the ed show." stay right with us. >> it's over. >> no more twinkies? >> this is it. >> hostess executives demand huge bonuses while 18,000 people get fired. congressman jim mcdermott responds, next. >>> gdp is up, and unemployment is down. and this congress is the most unproductive in history. we'll break down the numbers. >>> and congressman louie gohmert g